Comments on: Cruelty to Arthropods http://evolvingmind.info/blog/2009/04/cruelty-to-arthropods/ driven by curiosity, guided by rationality Mon, 06 Feb 2012 22:23:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Andrew Bernardin http://evolvingmind.info/blog/2009/04/cruelty-to-arthropods/comment-page-1/#comment-15059 Andrew Bernardin Sun, 06 Sep 2009 13:25:18 +0000 http://evolvingmind.info/blog/?p=1702#comment-15059 John, what lobsters do have is "two or three pairs of ganglia" at the anterior part of their body, coupled with a paired nerve cord that runs the length of the their body. Is that a brain? Depends on where you set the threshold for "brain." Can they feel pain? My guess is yes, but not to the same extent that animals with true(er) brains do. The lobster's nervous system is very similar to that of a grasshopper. Which brings me to my point: I tend to give more consideration to the suffering of, say, pigs, than I do to grasshoppers. And I think this is reasonable, sarcastic tone or not. John, what lobsters do have is “two or three pairs of ganglia” at the anterior part of their body, coupled with a paired nerve cord that runs the length of the their body.
Is that a brain? Depends on where you set the threshold for “brain.” Can they feel pain? My guess is yes, but not to the same extent that animals with true(er) brains do. The lobster’s nervous system is very similar to that of a grasshopper. Which brings me to my point: I tend to give more consideration to the suffering of, say, pigs, than I do to grasshoppers. And I think this is reasonable, sarcastic tone or not.

]]> By: John http://evolvingmind.info/blog/2009/04/cruelty-to-arthropods/comment-page-1/#comment-15057 John Sun, 06 Sep 2009 13:00:18 +0000 http://evolvingmind.info/blog/?p=1702#comment-15057 Lobsters do have brain you fucking twat, and even if you did buy frozen lobster it's still been killed painfully by somebody else. You sound like such a smug prick when you say 'I’ll save the mental and emotional energy for dealing with animals with brains.' Fucking arsehole. Lobsters do have brain you fucking twat, and even if you did buy frozen lobster it’s still been killed painfully by somebody else. You sound like such a smug prick when you say ‘I’ll save the mental and emotional energy for dealing with animals with brains.’ Fucking arsehole.

]]> By: Andrew http://evolvingmind.info/blog/2009/04/cruelty-to-arthropods/comment-page-1/#comment-10380 Andrew Mon, 04 May 2009 23:46:58 +0000 http://evolvingmind.info/blog/?p=1702#comment-10380 Nicely soused indeed. Similarly, I have found that tossing back some wine will likewise dull any pangs of guilt/empathy I may for the creature I am about to have for dinner. Nicely soused indeed.
Similarly, I have found that tossing back some wine will likewise dull any pangs of guilt/empathy I may for the creature I am about to have for dinner.

]]> By: PhillyChief http://evolvingmind.info/blog/2009/04/cruelty-to-arthropods/comment-page-1/#comment-10373 PhillyChief Mon, 04 May 2009 18:56:10 +0000 http://evolvingmind.info/blog/?p=1702#comment-10373 Some years ago, groups like PETA got bent because Iron Chef Morimoto soaked lobsters in sake before cooking them. Apparently this was cruel. In light of this evidence, I'd say it was compassionate. He got them nicely soused before doing them in. Personally, the little screams and sounds of scrapings on the inside of the pot just make me salivate more in anticipation of their eventual yumminess. :) Some years ago, groups like PETA got bent because Iron Chef Morimoto soaked lobsters in sake before cooking them. Apparently this was cruel. In light of this evidence, I’d say it was compassionate. He got them nicely soused before doing them in.

Personally, the little screams and sounds of scrapings on the inside of the pot just make me salivate more in anticipation of their eventual yumminess. :)

]]> By: Humanist Creativity | the evolving mind http://evolvingmind.info/blog/2009/04/cruelty-to-arthropods/comment-page-1/#comment-10365 Humanist Creativity | the evolving mind Mon, 04 May 2009 13:46:23 +0000 http://evolvingmind.info/blog/?p=1702#comment-10365 [...] you are thinking! Your head, it starts to nod As “The Evolving Mind” ponders cruelty to arthropods! Poor lobsters feel pain? But if morality we prize, Can it be satisfied with [...] [...] you are thinking! Your head, it starts to nod As “The Evolving Mind” ponders cruelty to arthropods! Poor lobsters feel pain? But if morality we prize, Can it be satisfied with [...]

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